>>neil: the other two crew members were michael collins and buzz aldrin who would walk on the moon with article strong. >> a lot of gossip back and forth about how it ended up kneel am strong was the first. but you were supposed to be, right? >>guest: in was an uncertainty and the senior person has the responsibility for much more requirement, it it would seem the outside activity should be the job of the junior person. >>neil: who was that supposed to be? you? armstrong? who? >>guest: there is a lot of discussion about the command irleading his troops and the commander is a symbolic person and armstrong was closer to the door but i won't tell you how the decision was made. >>neil: it is weird? >>guest: i went home and told my wife, frankly, i just as soon be on the later mission where i would not have to put up with all the celebrity speechmaking for the rest of my life. >> show time, july 16, 1969. >>guest: you think of the countdown as the curtain opening, and worry is a wasted emotion, it clouds clear thinking that is absolutely needed when something was wrong. >>neil: the launch wa